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0012190	mantisbt	localization	public	2010-07-23 05:44	2014-09-23 18:05

Reporter	T1000	Assigned To	dregad
Priority	normal	Severity	text	Reproducibility	always
Status	closed	Resolution	fixed
Product Version	1.2.1
Fixed in Version	1.2.6

Summary	0012190: Typos and confusion in French / English
Description	Just installed this and great job. One of my colleagues (French) found errors in the localisation: In the following string: $s_resolution_enum_string = '10:ouvert,20:résolu,30:rouvert,40:impossible à reproduire,50:impossible à corriger,60:doublon,70:pas un bogue,80:suspendu,90:ne sera pas résolu' 30:rouvert => 30:ré-ouvert There could also be some confusion when setting relations between issues in French localisation. Suggest: $s_dependant_on = 'dépendant de' => $s_dependant_on = 'Parent de' $s_blocks = 'bloque' => $s_blocks = 'Enfant de' Although extremely minor and no effect on Mantis functionality, the English variable and corresponding string seems to be a little confusing as if they're in contradiction with each other. $s_dependant_on = 'Parent of' Take the two sentences: "I'm dependant on my parents" "I'm the parent of my child" More suitable would be: $s_dependants = 'Parents of' (probably the better one) or $s_dependant_of = 'Parents of' But as I said, has no effect on functionality and probably not worth changing. Probably what lead to the confusing French translation.
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T1000 2010-07-27 03:58 reporter ~0026134	Other strings that would need to be fixed for rouvert --> ré-ouvert are: $s_email_notification_title_for_action_bug_reopened $s_bug_reopened_msg $s_reopen_add_bugnote_title $s_desc_bug_reopen_status

atrol 2010-07-27 06:08 developer ~0026135	T1000, if you are interested you can contribute to MantisBT by following these instructions to change translations http://www.mantisbt.org/wiki/doku.php/mantisbt:translationshowto?s=translatewiki Your changes will become part of next versions.

philou2024 2011-04-08 08:54 reporter ~0028567	I can do it. I am working on some translations on translatewiki. "réouvert" is enough, like réouverture. dash is not very useful.

Lapinkiller 2011-06-01 03:57 reporter ~0028881	"rouvert" is the correct translation : http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/r%C3%A9ouverture/68303

T1000 2011-06-15 10:11 reporter ~0029004	I'm fine with anyone else who has the time and is willing to fix the French wording. I have very little time myself and nor do I know any French myself. I don't have much to say about the word "rouvert" myself. My French work colleague likened it to using the word "ain't" instead of "isn't" in English... well you get the idea anyway.

Lapinkiller 2011-06-15 10:54 reporter ~0029006	Sorry i don't understand the allusion to : "ain't" instead of "isn't" My native language is french, not english ;)

dregad 2011-06-16 10:01 developer ~0029021	Both spellings "rouvert" and "réouvert" are actually correct and valid. http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french/rouvrir http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french/r%C3%A9ouvert That said, T1000 I do not think your colleague's is correct in their comparison, as "ain't" is colloquial and generally considered as improper in written English [1], which is not the case of either rouvert or réouvert. Felt like picking nits today ;) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contractions_of_negated_auxiliary_verbs_in_English#Ain.27t

Lapinkiller 2011-06-16 14:02 reporter ~0029025	@dregad : no, "réouvert" is not correct the correct spellings is "rouvert" "réouvrir" is correct, but it's the verb... your link is about "réouvrir" and not "réouvert" ;) see my link in my first note

dregad 2011-06-17 03:09 developer ~0029027 Last edited: 2011-06-17 03:16	Désolé de te contredire mon petit lapin, mais tu devrais réviser tes conjugaisons... My link is correct, and indeed points to the verb "réouvrir" simply because "réouvert" is the past participle form of that verb. On my previous link, click on "conjugaison" to see it, or if you prefer another link see for example http://www.incapable.fr/conjugaison-verbe-reouvrir-5778 (participe passé). That being said, it is worth mentioning that other forms of "réouvir" than the infinitive and past participle are not actually valid, and on that you are correct in saying that the right verb to use is rouvrir. Bonne journée :)

Lapinkiller 2011-06-17 03:40 reporter ~0029028 Last edited: 2011-06-17 03:44	Commence par regarder le lien que j'ai donné en premier : http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/r%C3%A9ouverture/68303 Réouvrir est une entorse (pas forcément illogique) à la langue française ;) Réouvrir/réouvert est toléré mais pas réellement "français" ;) http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie8/r%C3%A9ouvrir http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie8/rouvrir

grangeway 2013-04-05 17:57 reporter ~0036397	Marking as 'acknowledged' not resolved/closed to track that change gets ported to master-2.0.x branch

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