0012190: Typos and confusion in French / English

(0026134)
T1000 (reporter)
2010-07-27 03:58

Other strings that would need to be fixed for rouvert --> ré-ouvert are:
1. $s_email_notification_title_for_action_bug_reopened
2. $s_bug_reopened_msg
3. $s_reopen_add_bugnote_title
4. $s_desc_bug_reopen_status

(0026135)
atrol (developer)
2010-07-27 06:08

T1000, if you are interested you can contribute to MantisBT by following these instructions to change translations
http://www.mantisbt.org/wiki/doku.php/mantisbt:translationshowto?s=translatewiki [^]
Your changes will become part of next versions.

(0028567)
philou2024 (reporter)
2011-04-08 08:54

I can do it. I am working on some translations on translatewiki.

"réouvert" is enough, like réouverture. dash is not very useful.

(0028881)
Lapinkiller (reporter)
2011-06-01 03:57

"rouvert" is the correct translation : http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/r%C3%A9ouverture/68303 [^]

(0029004)
T1000 (reporter)
2011-06-15 10:11

I'm fine with anyone else who has the time and is willing to fix the French wording. I have very little time myself and nor do I know any French myself.

I don't have much to say about the word "rouvert" myself. My French work colleague likened it to using the word "ain't" instead of "isn't" in English... well you get the idea anyway.

(0029006)
Lapinkiller (reporter)
2011-06-15 10:54

Sorry i don't understand the allusion to : "ain't" instead of "isn't"

My native language is french, not english ;)

(0029021)
dregad (developer)
2011-06-16 10:01

Both spellings "rouvert" and "réouvert" are actually correct and valid.

http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french/rouvrir [^]
http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french/r%C3%A9ouvert [^]

That said, T1000 I do not think your colleague's is correct in their comparison, as "ain't" is colloquial and generally considered as improper in written English [1], which is not the case of either rouvert or réouvert.

Felt like picking nits today ;)

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contractions_of_negated_auxiliary_verbs_in_English#Ain.27t [^]

(0029025)
Lapinkiller (reporter)
2011-06-16 14:02

@dregad : no, "réouvert" is not correct the correct spellings is "rouvert"

"réouvrir" is correct, but it's the verb...

your link is about "réouvrir" and not "réouvert" ;)

see my link in my first note

(0029027)
dregad (developer)
2011-06-17 03:09
edited on: 2011-06-17 03:16

Désolé de te contredire mon petit lapin, mais tu devrais réviser tes conjugaisons...

My link is correct, and indeed points to the verb "réouvrir" simply because "réouvert" is the past participle form of that verb.

On my previous link, click on "conjugaison" to see it, or if you prefer another link see for example http://www.incapable.fr/conjugaison-verbe-reouvrir-5778 [^] (participe passé).

That being said, it is worth mentioning that other forms of "réouvir" than the infinitive and past participle are not actually valid, and on that you are correct in saying that the right verb to use is rouvrir.

Bonne journée :)

(0029028)
Lapinkiller (reporter)
2011-06-17 03:40
edited on: 2011-06-17 03:44

Commence par regarder le lien que j'ai donné en premier : http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/r%C3%A9ouverture/68303 [^]
Réouvrir est une entorse (pas forcément illogique) à la langue française ;)

Réouvrir/réouvert est toléré mais pas réellement "français" ;)

http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie8/r%C3%A9ouvrir [^]
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie8/rouvrir [^]

(0036397)
grangeway (developer)
2013-04-05 17:57

Marking as 'acknowledged' not resolved/closed to track that change gets ported to master-2.0.x branch

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-07-23 05:44	T1000	New Issue
2010-07-27 03:58	T1000	Note Added: 0026134
2010-07-27 06:08	atrol	Note Added: 0026135
2011-04-08 08:54	philou2024	Note Added: 0028567
2011-06-01 03:57	Lapinkiller	Note Added: 0028881
2011-06-15 10:11	T1000	Note Added: 0029004
2011-06-15 10:54	Lapinkiller	Note Added: 0029006
2011-06-16 10:01	dregad	Note Added: 0029021
2011-06-16 14:02	Lapinkiller	Note Added: 0029025
2011-06-17 03:09	dregad	Note Added: 0029027
2011-06-17 03:16	dregad	Note Edited: 0029027	View Revisions
2011-06-17 03:40	Lapinkiller	Note Added: 0029028
2011-06-17 03:44	Lapinkiller	Note Edited: 0029028	View Revisions
2011-06-17 03:44	Lapinkiller	Note Edited: 0029028	View Revisions
2011-11-26 09:45	dregad	Status	new => resolved
2011-11-26 09:45	dregad	Fixed in Version	=> 1.2.6
2011-11-26 09:45	dregad	Resolution	open => fixed
2011-11-26 09:45	dregad	Assigned To	=> dregad
2011-12-03 10:29	atrol	Status	resolved => closed
2013-04-05 17:57	grangeway	Status	closed => acknowledged
2013-04-05 17:57	grangeway	Note Added: 0036397
2013-04-05 18:14	grangeway	Relationship added	related to 0015721
2013-04-06 09:22	dregad	Tag Attached: 2.0.x check
2013-04-06 09:23	dregad	Status	acknowledged => closed

Notes
(0026134) T1000 (reporter) 2010-07-27 03:58	Other strings that would need to be fixed for rouvert --> ré-ouvert are: 1. $s_email_notification_title_for_action_bug_reopened 2. $s_bug_reopened_msg 3. $s_reopen_add_bugnote_title 4. $s_desc_bug_reopen_status

(0026135) atrol (developer) 2010-07-27 06:08	T1000, if you are interested you can contribute to MantisBT by following these instructions to change translations http://www.mantisbt.org/wiki/doku.php/mantisbt:translationshowto?s=translatewiki [^] Your changes will become part of next versions.

(0028567) philou2024 (reporter) 2011-04-08 08:54	I can do it. I am working on some translations on translatewiki. "réouvert" is enough, like réouverture. dash is not very useful.

(0028881) Lapinkiller (reporter) 2011-06-01 03:57	"rouvert" is the correct translation : http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/r%C3%A9ouverture/68303 [^]

(0029004) T1000 (reporter) 2011-06-15 10:11	I'm fine with anyone else who has the time and is willing to fix the French wording. I have very little time myself and nor do I know any French myself. I don't have much to say about the word "rouvert" myself. My French work colleague likened it to using the word "ain't" instead of "isn't" in English... well you get the idea anyway.

(0029006) Lapinkiller (reporter) 2011-06-15 10:54	Sorry i don't understand the allusion to : "ain't" instead of "isn't" My native language is french, not english ;)

(0029021) dregad (developer) 2011-06-16 10:01	Both spellings "rouvert" and "réouvert" are actually correct and valid. http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french/rouvrir [^] http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french/r%C3%A9ouvert [^] That said, T1000 I do not think your colleague's is correct in their comparison, as "ain't" is colloquial and generally considered as improper in written English [1], which is not the case of either rouvert or réouvert. Felt like picking nits today ;) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contractions_of_negated_auxiliary_verbs_in_English#Ain.27t [^]

(0029025) Lapinkiller (reporter) 2011-06-16 14:02	@dregad : no, "réouvert" is not correct the correct spellings is "rouvert" "réouvrir" is correct, but it's the verb... your link is about "réouvrir" and not "réouvert" ;) see my link in my first note

(0029027) dregad (developer) 2011-06-17 03:09 edited on: 2011-06-17 03:16	Désolé de te contredire mon petit lapin, mais tu devrais réviser tes conjugaisons... My link is correct, and indeed points to the verb "réouvrir" simply because "réouvert" is the past participle form of that verb. On my previous link, click on "conjugaison" to see it, or if you prefer another link see for example http://www.incapable.fr/conjugaison-verbe-reouvrir-5778 [^] (participe passé). That being said, it is worth mentioning that other forms of "réouvir" than the infinitive and past participle are not actually valid, and on that you are correct in saying that the right verb to use is rouvrir. Bonne journée :)

(0029028) Lapinkiller (reporter) 2011-06-17 03:40 edited on: 2011-06-17 03:44	Commence par regarder le lien que j'ai donné en premier : http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/r%C3%A9ouverture/68303 [^] Réouvrir est une entorse (pas forcément illogique) à la langue française ;) Réouvrir/réouvert est toléré mais pas réellement "français" ;) http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie8/r%C3%A9ouvrir [^] http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie8/rouvrir [^]

(0036397) grangeway (developer) 2013-04-05 17:57	Marking as 'acknowledged' not resolved/closed to track that change gets ported to master-2.0.x branch